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Jon Preston
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Talked to JW's in Service Today (kinda long...sorry)
by exwhyzee ini was in my company vehicle and i spotted some jw's going from door to door.. i circled around the block and pulled over.
when they passed, i rolled down the .
window and asked the pleasant looking middle aged couple as they passed, if they were jehovah's .
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Right! So the meeting last night, a few interesting things
by Jon Preston inso i havent been to a meeting in some time and my wife decided we should go.
we showed up late, i was love bombed by an elder with a man-hug where i felt i was made a spectacle of.
moving on.
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Jon Preston
Oh and one more thing, can someone start a post about this? I found it intriguing.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201403/untold-story-of-creation/
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Right! So the meeting last night, a few interesting things
by Jon Preston inso i havent been to a meeting in some time and my wife decided we should go.
we showed up late, i was love bombed by an elder with a man-hug where i felt i was made a spectacle of.
moving on.
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Jon Preston
So i havent been to a meeting in some time and my wife decided we should go. We showed up late, i was love bombed by an elder with a man-hug where i felt i was made a spectacle of. Moving on
now the three talk was given by some sisters about during the resurrection those who died will be resurrected and not re-destroyed because of past actions in their previous life. They brought out that scripture about the wages sin pays is death and one other i forgot as i was droning.
Anyhow THEN they dropped the bomb: John 5:25-29
25Most truly I say to you, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who have paid attention will live. 26 For just as the Father has life in himself,*+ so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself.+ 27 And he has given him authority to do judging,+because he is the Son of man.+ 28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice+ 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.+
"hmm" i thought. Doesnt this contradict all that shes said? Jesus is given the job of Judging. We find out earlier that Jehovah does not judge but thats Christs job. Now the most blatant contradiction is verse 29....you do good and you get resurrected to life....Bad? Resurrected to judgment (not destruction). So how did they get around this?
the young sister said that the ones who are judged are already aliv. After the resurrection and are the ones who will be judged after they have a chance to perfect themselves.....??? My mouth hang open a moment and i may have drooled on my silk tie. She then said "why would Jehovah resurrect someone just to destroy them again? I thought "what planet are we on??? It doesnt say destruction!!!". Fun stuff.
Next theinfamous local needs in which family heads were encouraged to teach their kids to LOve jehovah, be his friend, pray to him, talk to him. One anology i enjoyed was: Can you have a friend you never talk to? Teach your kids that Jehovah is real and can be their friend.
My thoughts: "Can you have a friend that does NOT answer you? Doesnt speak back? Is invisible?" a friend is someone you have conversation with who talks back and interacts with you. Jehovah does non of these. Answers prayer? Some believe that. But if your friend saw people you love being murdered and tortured and had the power to do something about it, would they? If they truly loved you? Just saying.
Now after the talk another elder, as he walked down the isle, stopped dead and bent down and shook my hand. Yes, in front of everyone. Again i was the spectacle. So there you have it! Welcome back to the meeting Cleric Jon Preston.
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Update on my fade
by Jon Preston ini apologize for the strangeness of my topics of late.
im in antight spot.
i havent been to a meeting for over a month...wife is sick again and wants me to attend but i am having the most difficilt time getting motivated to go...i mean every molecule in my body wants to stay home..but ive got an elder friend texting to ask if we are going and another asking for our service reports....grrr.
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Jon Preston
I apologize for the strangeness of my topics of late. Im in antight spot. I havent been to a meeting for over a month...wife is sick again and wants me to attend but i am having the most difficilt time getting motivated to go...i mean every molecule in my body wants to stay home..but ive got an elder friend texting to ask if we are going and another asking for our service reports....grrr. What to do? What to do?
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RIP, resurrection, and long dead ones
by Jon Preston ini apologize in advance if any get offended but.... i had a morbid thought.
if dead ones are resurrected to heaven when they die, why bury the body?
or if they are in soul sleep, wheres the soul when a body has decayed to nothing but bones and hair?
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Jon Preston
Especially since theres so much work to be done post armageddon and resurrection, growing to perfection and all...if your a dub.
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RIP, resurrection, and long dead ones
by Jon Preston ini apologize in advance if any get offended but.... i had a morbid thought.
if dead ones are resurrected to heaven when they die, why bury the body?
or if they are in soul sleep, wheres the soul when a body has decayed to nothing but bones and hair?
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Jon Preston
Well theres this other thing like cremation....pretty much follows the same path toward the "to the dust you shall return" motif....just at a faster rate. id imagine its much easier (forgive this next comment) to just pour your loved one on the floor for Jesus to rematerialize than digging them out....just saying.
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Letting JESUS refute the Watch Tower blood policies
by Terry inletting jesus refute the watch tower blood policies.
the watch tower bible and tract society represent itself as christian.. it represents its theology and policies as direct from jehovah god through his son, jesus christ.. further, the governing body of this corporation interposes itself between the mediator, jesus, and the rest of jehovah's (christian) witnesses for the purpose of "feeding them (spiritual) food at the proper time.. the official word of jesus christ is represented in the watch tower's policy on blood transfusions.. in 1998 this statement was made:.
jehovah's witnesses do not accept whole blood, or major components of blood, namely, red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets and plasma.
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Jon Preston
Wow...brilliant thanks terry! Wi store for use later!
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RIP, resurrection, and long dead ones
by Jon Preston ini apologize in advance if any get offended but.... i had a morbid thought.
if dead ones are resurrected to heaven when they die, why bury the body?
or if they are in soul sleep, wheres the soul when a body has decayed to nothing but bones and hair?
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Jon Preston
I apologize in advance if any get offended but...
I had a morbid thought. if dead ones are resurrected to heaven when they die, why bury the body? Or if they are in soul sleep, wheres the soul when a body has decayed to nothing but bones and hair? Jesus will regenerate tissue? Disturbing to think about.
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Difference between WT selling property and "Christendom" selling property
by Jon Preston ini had this conversation with a jw relative.
he said when he was out in service one day the elder he was with came to a door of a minister who just purchased the churh in his area for ooooooh 12 mil maybe?
and the elder asked him how he liked being a commodity...bold.
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Jon Preston
Fhats what i thought when i heard it....inthought "how the hell is that different"...
ridiculous..i just am not an economically saavy individual and i knew better than to press the matter....crazy
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Difference between WT selling property and "Christendom" selling property
by Jon Preston ini had this conversation with a jw relative.
he said when he was out in service one day the elder he was with came to a door of a minister who just purchased the churh in his area for ooooooh 12 mil maybe?
and the elder asked him how he liked being a commodity...bold.
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Jon Preston
I had this conversation with a JW relative. He said when he was out in service one day the elder he was with came to a door of a minister who just purchased the churh in his area for ooooooh 12 mil maybe? And the elder asked him how he liked being a commodity...Bold. The househokder seemed confused. Anyways so basically he was imolying thatbthe man was swindled because the man who recieved the money made a lot? Not sure.
So i asked him "how is this any different than the WT selling a bunch of properties in brooklyn with a HUGEpayout?"
he said: "well this is differen because the money returned to the organization to be redistributed
so it it the same? I dont see the difference....